Bureaucrat/Sysop

[krillmeed]

Just an observation here, and as usual i could be wrong But the Bureaucrat of a Wiki is normally i think the person who installed the Wiki in the first place, and a Sysop is a person that the Bureaucrat has given him permssion to help run the Wiki kind of thing. As far as i can see a Bureaucrat is not shown the Ban IP link in special pages but the Sysop can see this. Am i right, and if so, am i missing something here

[Emufarmers]

This is an intended (if not entirely intuitive) effect of how rights are divided between sysops and bureaucrats by default. The initial user is both a bureaucrat and a sysop, and a bureaucrat can make himself a sysop at will. Groups are independent of each other.

You can, of course, modify the configuration so that bureaucrats actually have sysop powers by virtue of their bureaucratship alone.

[krillmeed]

Makes more sense now, but does sound like the creator of a Wiki has less rights to it than his helpers. Just an observation, thought there might be a good reason for it LOL

[Skizzerz]

The creator of the wiki is given both bureaucrat and sysop rights by default. They could, potentially, remove themselves from the sysop group to then have less rights than other normal sysops, but they could easily add the group back to themselves.

Consider this analogy: Groups in MediaWiki are like clubs. Say that the "sysop" club gives you free pizza and soda, and the "bureaucrat" club gives you free paper plates. When you belong to both clubs, you get the plates, pizza, and soda. However, if you quit the sysop club and are only in the bureaucrat club, all you get are the plates with no pizza and soda to go along with it. Yes, that isn't the best analogy, but it does help to illustrate the point that groups are kept separate from one another and as such it is pointless to be a bureaucrat without also being a sysop

[krillmeed]

Thanks, loved the explanation, makes me feel hungry LOL